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Showing posts with label Tandem. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tandem. Show all posts

Friday, July 24, 2020

One tire fails. What about it's "mate"?

Had a question from a friend about replacing both tires when one failed on the same side of the RV. 

 In Motorhomes with "Dual" tires (side by side) in the rear and you do not get the early warning from TPMS of air loss, you need to seriously consider replacing the "un-failed tire" because when it's "mate" failed the un-failed tire was overloaded by 100% for some unknown number of miles. 
You can always take the un-failed tire to a dealer, for that brand of tire, and have it inspected inside & out, and if ruled OK, in writing, by the dealer, you could keep the tire as a spare.
However, if it ran some unknown number of miles at 100% overload, I would not even trust it as a spare. 

 Now in the case of a multi-axle RV trailer (tandem axle) and one tire failed and again you were not running a TPMS to get an advanced warning, we need to consider what happened to the load on that side of the trailer. Wouldn't all the load from that end of the axle with the failed tire transfer to the un-failed tire on that side of the trailer? This transfer would be transferred through the springs and the link between the axles. The load supported by the "failed" tire doesn't simply evaporate, does it? It has to be taken up by the un-failed tire on that side of the trailer.

So again that tire should be removed, inspected, and replaced as with the Motorhome example. It might be OK to keep as an emergency spare but only used with great caution and only if inspected and judged OK by a dealer of that brand of tire.


This is one of the things people do not think of when considering running TPMS. If you get advance warning of air loss in one tire in a "Dual" or "Tandem" location you not only might save the cost of the punctured tire if it was caught soon enough to be repaired but you might even have saved enough by not losing the 2nd tire not to mention avoiding the $Thousands of possible damage to the RV.

 ##RVT959 

Monday, June 17, 2013

How to replace a tire in "Dual" application

First off if you have a towable RV and your tow vehicle only has four tires you can go get a cup of coffee as this post doesn't apply to you. However, the information here can still be important to know and pass on if you ever happen to be sitting around a campfire and hear someone talking about replacing a failed dual tire.

Now lets be sure everyone understands what is meant by "Dual" application vs "Tandem".

Tandem means one following or behind the other. Most trailers have either two or three axles in "tandem" and each axle has just two tires on it. This utility trailer has tandem axles.
Dual means two tires side by side on the same end of an axle. Most Class-C and Class-A RVs have Dual tires in the rear drive position. A drive axle with dual tires has four tires on it. This version of "Bigfoot" has dual tires on each axle.









 Ok we have definitions behind us. This post will address the proper way to match a pair of tires for dual application. This is very important, as mismatched duals can result in overloading and in extreme cases could lead to tire failure.

If you are buying new tires you should find that all the tires are almost identical in OD when first inflated. If you were to accurately measure the tires after a few hundred miles use you would find that the tires have "grown" or stretched out a bit as they were heat cycled, but again the tires would be very similar in dimensions.

If you were going to try and measure the OD of a tire you would also learn that it takes special tools to get a direct measurement. The best way to measure how big a tire is is to measure the circumference. You can do this with a standard tape measure. You don't even need to calculate OD from the measured circumference as I will give you the guidelines based on circumference. You just need to be sure you keep the tape at the center of the tire.

Here I have affixed one end of a standard tape measure to the center of an inflated tire using masking tape.


I next carefully roll the tire around, keeping the tape taught and in the center.


When the tape comes around I can get a fairly accurate measurement of the circumference. In this example I didn't use the end of the tape as the tang doesn't lay flat, so using the 3" mark I see 95" for an OC of 92.0 inches.


Now you should match tires +/- 3/4" of circumference in dual application. 


If placing new tires in dual application you do not need to do this measurement but if trying to match used tires or a new tire with a used tire this matching is important.


BOTTOM LINE:
If you do not match the tires the larger tire will be forced to carry an increased load and in extreme cases can result in failure.